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Subject:LOTR EE BOX SET
Time:10:08 pm
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When the extended ROTK dvd had been released and, later, the 3 LOTR Special Editions, I consoled myself with thoughts of PJ's oft-repeated promise of an "ultimate, super-duper box set" which would be crammed full of goodies including all the gag reels and outtakes and possibly audition tapes. But more recently, hearing of all the troubles with New Line and seeing PJ become so engrossed in other film-making, my hopes had begun to fade. With the release of the theatrical versions on Blu-Ray - with exactly the same appendices as the originals - my hopes plummeted to zero. PJ had already given us so much - I decided I must just treasure that and not be greedy. But today, the flame of hope has been rekindled. In an article posted on theonering.net, Michael Pellerin (dvd producer) talks of a "feature-length documetary by PJ" detailing the creation of LOTR chronologically; "very funny, off the wall stuff; anecdotes; shenanigans on and off screen;; "practical jokes, the gag and outtakes reels (which are myriad)"; "stories only people who were there know about". OH PLEASE! PLEASE! PLEASE!

However, it seem that still there is no certainty about this. As he says "it still remains on the 'to do' list until the studio decides its time". But it is wonderful to at least know that it's a real possibility again. You can read all of what he said about it



Extended Editions, the Ultimate Box Set and the Future

Peter and I began talking about LOTR on HD as far back as 2001 - during the making of the films. As we knew the film would eventually be released in some yet-to-be-determined HD format, we began planning The Lord of the Rings HD Box Set from the very beginning, nearly a decade ago.

Our idea was to think and plan ahead, and actually set aside some of our best ideas and materials specifically for those future releases. In other words, studios are going to probably release a film on video iteratively anyway. Given that's an immutable fact, if you're going to ask the consumers to buy the title again - why not plan ahead to make it a real event with brand new, compelling content? As opposed to being left with having to scrape together meager bonus materials on a future re-release of a title.

Besides, we didn't even have the room to fit everything on the original releases anyway. Truth be told, even with the six Appendices discs on the original Extended Edition DVDs, which we packed to capacity with content, we knew there would be a lot of material we just could not fit onto the original DVDs. So we purposefully held back some of the best stuff for later use. Every idea we had, Peter vetted and was placed into one of two categories: 1) Stuff to put it on the Extended Edition DVDs - or 2) Stuff saved for the HD Box Set.

We had made a very conscious decision to make everything on the original Appendices Supplemental discs very specifically about the technical process of making the three films, as told by the many, many voices of the people who made them. Therefore, anything that was not specific to that goal, or approach, we saved for the Box Set.

What kind of stuff?

One of the crown jewels was to be Peter's documentary. Peter had always talked about creating his own feature-length documentary, that tells the whole process of creating LOTR chronologically, from his - the filmmaker's - point of view: what he was thinking and why he made decisions, and inviting us to walk with him on that journey, from beginning to end.

We also wanted to present the lighter side of LOTR as well - the experience of living, working and breathing The Lord of the Rings for the better part of 10 years. Very funny, very off the wall stuff, to be sure: Lots of anecdotes; shenanigans on and off screen; practical jokes, the gag and outtakes reels (which are myriad), and the stories only people who were there know about. Much of it was captured on tape and film, and we got everyone to sit down and tell those stories during the making of the films, while they still remembered them.

We wanted to finally get around to telling the incredible story of the long road how these films got off the ground in the first place. That and other stories that were too politically sensitive at the time to tell.

We had planned actual new narrative content, with new production, which I can't comment too much on at this point - but it presents exciting possibilities, to be sure.

We had also designed a few things you could only really do given some distance from the film over the years.

These are just a few examples, but eventually, this amassed into about 20 hours of ideas, and material we set aside for the Box Set to create this whole other experience someday. Over the years, Peter has mentioned the Box Set in various interviews, on the DVDs, in the media and to the fans - but as of yet, it still remains in the "to do" list, until the studio decides it's time.

There has been a lot of interest in the release of the Extended Editions on BD, but right now, there honestly isn't anything to discuss. WHV is just concentrating on the theatrical releases at this point. What I do hope is that fans will eventually get to see the rest of the story on the Box Set - as it would be nice for it to see the light of day, to see it done and finally out in the world and on the shelf.

Michael Pellerin
Los Angeles - April 2010
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sacrament666
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Time:2010-04-27 09:13 pm (UTC)
I really can't wait to have this treasure in my arms! Give me it now!!!
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not_alone
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Time:2010-04-28 02:54 pm (UTC)
Same here:)
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shirebound
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Time:2010-04-27 09:20 pm (UTC)
we purposefully held back some of the best stuff for later use

*drools* *wants*
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not_alone
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Time:2010-04-28 02:55 pm (UTC)
Yes - it is so mouthwatering!!
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annwyn55
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Time:2010-04-27 09:38 pm (UTC)
Yeah, well, if it ever gets done, I hope they don't wait another ten years. I'm not getting any younger. :D
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not_alone
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Time:2010-04-28 02:57 pm (UTC)
>>I'm not getting any younger. :D<<

Neither am I!! I do wish they'd get a move on!!
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rakshi
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Time:2010-04-27 10:13 pm (UTC)
*shrug* I think it's disgusting. There is absolutely NO reason they couldn't have put ALL that stuff on the Bluray version ALONG with the extended versions of the movies. No reason whatsoever. They could have shown a bit of loyalty and gratitude toward the fans who have supported them for years. Instead.. they'll wait until they can USE our endless lust for new footage to help promote the Hobbit's release.

Until the studio decides it's time?? jesus, it's been 10 years! What's to decide? No. They'll wait until they can use our love for this franchise to make that much more money to support their endless greed.

*sigh*


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ourdramaqueen
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Time:2010-04-28 08:18 am (UTC)
Seems that this has much to do with Warner Brothers taking over, from what PJ said in a Wall Street Journal interview:

Lastly, his opinion on the not-so-positive fan reaction to the recently released Theatrical BluRay version seems to jibe with the majority of the fans. “I agree with the fans”, he says. “I was heavily involved in the DVD process when the films were being released through New Line, but now that Warner Brothers has taken control over the releasing of the films, they just tell me what they’re doing and don’t involve me in the process. [With New Line,] the one thing we never did with the fans was make them feel cheated. Back in the original release, we always put extra material in, extra documentaries — a lot of added value. I so totally understand why the fans would be upset; I don’t disagree with them.”

I really hope they'll realise how negatively fans react to such tactics, and change them!
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ladysnaps
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Time:2010-04-27 10:50 pm (UTC)
i seem to recall pete saying a collection of these kind of things... bloopers!!... would happen in about 10 years. i was hoping it wouldn't be that long, but it looks to be the case. like you, i've been wanting to see those bloopers the most. i sure hope they finally get it done. millions of feet of film just has to yield at least a couple of oopsies. ;-)

thanks for posting this.
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not_alone
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Time:2010-04-28 03:27 pm (UTC)
Yes, we've waited a long time and it seems it will be even longer. I'm not getting any younger - wish they'd get a move on!!
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yeuxdebleu
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Time:2010-04-27 11:42 pm (UTC)
This would be awesome. I wonder if they'll hold off a bit longer then release it shortly before "The Hobbit." It would be a perfect marketing tool to spark interest again in the franchise and build excitement for "The Hobbit."
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not_alone
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Time:2010-04-28 03:30 pm (UTC)
Yes, it occurred to me that they may try to time it to co-incide with ''The Hobbit' in some way. Such a long time to wait - but at least I like knowing that there may be some more LOTR goodies to look forward to:)
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illuins_lair
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Time:2010-04-28 12:05 am (UTC)
!squee!

*sigh* Um.. though a decade of teasing is a pretty long time already damnit =/ Hopefully we´ll all be forgiving when that ultimate!release finally is given to us.

*bounces hopefully*

think!positive think!positive... GAAHHHHH! GIMME!!! *gurgles *
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not_alone
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Time:2010-04-28 03:32 pm (UTC)
Yes, we must think positive!! I'm sure you're right - when we finally get it we'll be happy to forgive and forget:)
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peripety
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Time:2010-04-28 12:43 am (UTC)
I'd love to see something like this, but gosh, I hate the thought of having to buy another box set or something to get it - I already own three sets, for goodness sake!
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not_alone
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Time:2010-04-28 03:36 pm (UTC)
I know what you mean - those devil studios are set on squeezing as much money from us as possible!! I won't be buying the theatrical editions on Blu-ray but those goodies promised (sort of) for the extended are too good to resist!!
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frolijah_fan_54
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Time:2010-04-28 02:23 am (UTC)
I'm not going to hold my breath - but it sure would be nice to see those shenanigans and blooper reels someday!! I wish PJ would just tell New Line to go jump in the lake and finance it himself - he must have the money!! I really lost respect for New Line when they released the Blue Ray versions with nothing new. I thought I remembered reading somewhere that PJ owns all that behind the scenes stuff - but I could be wrong.

How I'd love to see Elijah's audition tape and blooper reel!! Thanks for the info - and here's hoping it will happen!!
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ourdramaqueen
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Time:2010-04-28 08:13 am (UTC)
According to PJ, it's not New Line who released the Blu-Ray DVDs, but Warner Brothers. I hope this is not a sign of how things will be handled for all future DVD/Blu-Ray releases of LotR and The Hobbit! :(
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ourdramaqueen
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Time:2010-04-28 05:11 am (UTC)
Yes I can't wait for an edition with all that material! I just hope that PJ will be able to do it at all - as he said recently, the studio (ie Warner Brothers) didn't talk to him at all about the Blu-Ray release, as opposed to New Line's policy with the previous releases. Fingers crossed!!!
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not_alone
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Time:2010-04-28 08:09 pm (UTC)
Fingers crossed indeed!! I'd hate to have my/our hopes raised again only to come to nothing!
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msilverstar
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Time:2010-04-28 06:52 am (UTC)
I saw that, I so want MUCH for this to be true!
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not_alone
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Time:2010-04-28 08:11 pm (UTC)
Ohhh - me too! I want it so much:)
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verangel
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Time:2010-04-28 11:58 am (UTC)
I am CRAZY about that gorgeous icon of yours. Its stunning. I feel frustrated and overly teased that this will ever happen. Maybe 20 years? no how about 50th anniversary? It will actually lose its appeal at this rate.
One can hope though. hugs you xooxoxo v
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not_alone
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Time:2010-04-28 08:14 pm (UTC)
Thanks - I'd like to be able to say I'd made the icon myself but sadly I just don't have that ability. I got it some years ago from an icon site - created by someone called 'fragile silver':)

I do wish they'd just hurry up and get this box set out - I'm not getting any younger!!

*hugs*
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mechtild
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Time:2010-04-28 07:12 pm (UTC)
I'd love to get this if it came out. I hope they do it before some of us fans (meaning me!)are too blind and deaf to watch it. :)

Paulie, I have a question. I briefly looked through the comments and some of them repeat what I've heard elsewhere, complaints about New Line's Blu-Ray boxed set -- what they should have included but didn't, how it could have been better, etc. I thought New Line was sold a few years ago, and was bought up by a bigger company -- that it now no longer exists, except as a name. Did New Line manage to hold onto itself and still exists as a working company after all?

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not_alone
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Time:2010-04-28 08:21 pm (UTC)
Well, I'm not getting any younger either Mechtild - I really do wish they'd get a move on with this!!

>>Did New Line manage to hold onto itself and still exists as a working company after all?<<

I'm a bit confused about this too but if I'm right I think New Line was taken over by Warner Brothers. I'm not sure if the name still exists or not, to be honest. But I suppose it must do if the blu-ray disks are coming out under that name. I haven't bought the blu-ray theatrical editions - not much point as there's nothing new and I don''t have a blu-ray player:)


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janejanejane
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Time:2010-04-28 07:34 pm (UTC)
Good news that it's still a definite *more-than-a-possibility* :-)

Guess we'll have to wait and hope for the best and that it's not too long in coming... A significant anniversary of the release of the films in cinemas would seem a suitable time.

Thanks for this!
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not_alone
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Time:2010-04-28 08:23 pm (UTC)
>>significant anniversary of the release of the films in cinemas would seem a suitable time.<<

Yes, that would make sense - or as a run-up to 'The Hobbit' perhaps:)
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frodosweetstuff
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Time:2010-05-08 03:48 pm (UTC)
Oooooh, that is very very interesting and it does give hope indeed. It would be so very wonderful to be able to see all that.

*tries not to think of Elijah's audition tape and fails* :DDDD
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not_alone
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Time:2010-05-09 06:07 pm (UTC)
I live in hope that we will get all this one day - especially that audition tape!!
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