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Subject:A JOURNEY WITH FRODO - CH : 12 ~ THE FILMING OF THE DEAD MARSHES
Time:01:30 pm
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Just taking advantage of a quiet time at work to get this latest chapter posted. It may be a little shorter than most of the others - there doesn't seem to be a great deal of behind-the-scenes material for this scene and I did consider combining it with the next scene but that would have made it far too long. So, here it is





Elijah spent much of 'The Dead Marshes' scene submerged in freezing cold water and at other times they were constantly interrupted by passing trains, so this was not the most comfortable of scenes to shoot as the following pics and text will illustrate.

"The Dead Marshes were filmed in a parking lot and a variety of parking lots - first and foremost on this wet set that was initially used for outside the Gates of Moria and was switched over and made into the Dead Marshes." (Elijah - DVD)



"Peter Jackson wanted an ominous feel to the Marshes," Lesnie explains. "He needed a misty, eerie, unsettling reality where there is no escape. A vast, never-ending landscape." ...



Initially, Jackson and Lesnie considered the large marshes near Te Anau, on New Zealand's South Island. But they soon realized that location wasn't a realistic option.

"We discovered that it is incredibly difficult to negotiate those marshes on foot, and a step in the wrong direction resulted in sinking up to your waist," Lesnie remembers. "We also heard from local farmers that some livestock disappear altogether. Consequently the decision was made to create our own marshes, for practical and safety reasons."

That meant building a water-ready facility in their Wellington studios.
...



"Apart from one aerial shot of the real marshes, the rest of the Dead Marshes was created on three 'wet sets', one indoors and two outside," Lesnie explains. "The biggest exterior set was a flooded carpark spanning thousands of square meters and skillfully dressed by the art department with structural landmasses and moss and vegetation transported from the real marshlands. ...



"The set was strategically positioned facing north to guarantee maximum backlight over the course of each shooting day, and massive sky backdrops or bluescreens were backed by shipping containers and scaffold ran along the north, east and western edges of the set."

Shooting was divided into distinct tanks, depending on the demands for the particular scene.

"The majority of the sequences were filmed on the big, exterior wet set," Lesnie says. "The smaller outdoor set was created in the studio carpark to offer more control for WETA Workshop's 'spectral corpses' [the "dead" who give the marshes their name]. Night and pre-dawn scenes were filmed on the interior set in order to avoid subjecting the actors and crew to freezing night temperatures
(lotr.net)









Waiting for another train to pass!!










"He had to fight for Gollum to be realised as an actor and so I think a lot of the time when he would completely destroy himself physically he was giving his all so that the reference pass could be as perfect as it possibly could." Elijah, DVD)





"That suit took a beating too 'cos I remember it was all kind of clean and pristine and Andy - his approach was so intense and he gave absolutely everything every day and physically bashed himself about so the suit was just screwed. Also with the voice he'd give everything and as a result he'd be spitting and drooling - he tore up his throat with that voice - hence the Gollum juice!!" (Elijah - DVD)



Preparing for Frodo's fall ...






Considering he's about to be completely submerged in the freezing water, Elijah looks amazingly cheerful!!


A little apprehensive here perhaps ...






"Elijah Wood had been filmed suspended above a wind machine, and shot in slow motion to create the right look for Frodo under water. The top image by Gus has some of the other filmed material added as a guide for the compositors, while Alan’s study [below] is an earlier version."
(The Art of ‘The Two Towers’ ~ Gary Russel)















“But even indoors or on the warmest days, shooting the marsh scenes was a chilly affair for all concerned, especially the actors.

"Their clothing would become sodden as the day progressed," Lesnie recalls. "Elijah, Sean and Andy Serkis are wonderful actors who never complain, but it was a fragile and dangerous environment to work in, and everybody could feel the dank moisture permeating their bodies. Filming Frodo falling in and the immediate aftermath required Elijah to be soaked and Sean and Andy to be wet for hours at a time.
...



"I don't remember how cold the water was, but even though the actors had wetsuits and crew wore waders or wetsuits, it was bloody cold! You could feel it no matter what you had on."

The only antidote? "Plenty of hot soup," Lesnie says with a laugh”.

(lotr.net)



Wrap him up well!! And send him to me. sorry










Frodo has his hair combed ...


There was always time for a few lighter moments ...


Q: "And then maybe on the set, do you sneak games when you're not working?"

WOOD: "Sure, Sean and I, for a period of time, actually played quite a lot of Tony Hawk. That was our game of choice."

Q: 3?

WOOD: "Tony Hawk – what would that have been at the time? Well, 4 just came out, so it was Tony Hawk 2, I believe. So, at the time that was huge, and we were all involved in that." (IGN)

But for now a game of 'Thumbs' would have to suffice!!




The pic below is from Andy's book - it's from the scene where they're still in the marshland, Sam is asleep and Frodo, whilst indulging in a bit of Ring- worship, is disturbed by Gollum. He then confronts Gollum and reminds him of his long-forgotten, former self, Smeagol.

"Then Fran came up with the defining idea that this terrified Smeagol child could re-emerge through his growing connection and trust with Frodo, so that a fierce internal battle would really beging to grow, with Gollum being 'outed' and replaced by a new master. Smeagol could remember who he was again, feeling emotionally free from the hideous shackles that Gollum kept him in, and could, by talking to someone else apart from his Gollum self, find a kind of peace. This would also feed into Frodo's growing compassion and understanding of the weight of Smeagol's addiction and pain. As he helps Smeagol to reveal himself, Frodo learns to show pity and mercy, because he truly is beginning to sense the power that the Ring is having over himself. He needs to save Smeagol to know he can save himself. He is almost looking at a vision of himself, but much sicker. I started to think of Gollum/Smeagol as a sufferer of a severe terminal illness in its latter stages of development, whilst Frodo is just coming to terms with having contracted the same disease. This connection, of course, is a complete anathema to Sam, who remains defiant that it is all a ploy for Gollum to get the Ring." (Andy Serkis - "Gollum")




*****


"Frodo learns to show pity and mercy, because he truly is beginning to sense the power that the Ring is having over himself"




TO BE CONTINUED

Link to previous chapters:
http://not-alone.livejournal.com/tag/a+journey+with+frodo
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shirebound
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Time:2007-12-07 03:02 pm (UTC)
Wonderful, as always! Your pictures are almost always new to me. I love traveling behind the scenes... thank you again!
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not_alone
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Time:2007-12-07 09:48 pm (UTC)
You're welcome - glad you enjoyed it.

"I love traveling behind the scenes"

Even now I'm still discovering things about the filming - I can get ridiculously excited over the smallest new detail I find!!

As always, many thanks for posting about 'Journey' on your LJ:)
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frodobaggins252
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Time:2007-12-07 03:09 pm (UTC)
I just have to say again how awesome these are and how awesome you are for creating and posting them.

**giving hobbits and hugs and more hobbits and more hugs**
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not_alone
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Time:2007-12-07 09:49 pm (UTC)
Thank you so much, I'm really glad to know you're still enjoying it:)

*hugs*
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rakshi
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Time:2007-12-07 03:17 pm (UTC)
A truly amazing journey taken by a truly amazing young man. I can't thank you enough for this breathtaking study.

Love...
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not_alone
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Time:2007-12-07 09:54 pm (UTC)
You're very welcome:)

"A truly amazing journey taken by a truly amazing young man"

So very true!!
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belleferret
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Time:2007-12-07 03:51 pm (UTC)
Thank you for another wonderful glimpse behind the scenes. I so love the thumb wrestling!
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not_alone
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Time:2007-12-07 09:56 pm (UTC)
You're very welcome:) Yes, the thumb wrestling is really cute!!
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_celebrian
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Time:2007-12-07 04:02 pm (UTC)
Fantastic as always! :-) A lot of the pics and quotes were new to me. Thanks so much for your time and effort on these.
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not_alone
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Time:2007-12-07 09:57 pm (UTC)
You're very welcome - so glad some of this was new to you:)
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janejanejane
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Time:2007-12-07 04:41 pm (UTC)
Oh, I really enjoyed this! Thanks so much for all your hard work putting it together :)

It brings back happy memories of the Red Carpet tour, flying over the Dead Marshes in a helicopter and of Wellington where the studios are situated...

Most of all it brings back happy memories of those wonderful, exciting days when LOTR was being released film by film over 3 years... *sigh* I miss all the "buzz"!

Most of the pics are new to me. The extract and pic from Andy's book are very interesting. The psychology behind that scene where Frodo reminds Gollum of his previous existence as Smeagol is described so clearly and in such detail and yet it was accomplished almost sub-consciously. I "got" it all without even realising! Clever script-writing and excellent acting helped to convey it.

Btw, what font did you use for the title? It looks like Daniel Reeve's "Shire Regular" ;)

Thanks again. Looking forward to the next part!
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not_alone
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Time:2007-12-07 10:07 pm (UTC)
Thanks Jane - so glad you enjoyed it. I miss the buzz too, it was so exciting wondering how various scenes would be dealt with. Now it's all nostalgia, but I find that when I revisit those times through pics, articles, video clips etc, I can recall so vividly exactly how I felt:)

You're right about the font!! It is the 'Shire Regular' but with some bits missing - I haven't found a way to be able to include them in the text on a pic!! I bought the font from Daniel a while back - mainly for this reason:)
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golden_berry
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Time:2007-12-07 04:58 pm (UTC)
This is wonderful! After all this time, there is still so much to learn about the filming of LOTR. Thank you!
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not_alone
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Time:2007-12-07 10:09 pm (UTC)
You're very welcome - glad you enjoyed it. You're right, as I do my 'research' for this project I'm still discovering new things all the time - and get ridiculously excited every time I do!!
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westmoon
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Time:2007-12-07 05:02 pm (UTC)
As always, thank you for these. It's such a treat to revisit these scenes and gain new insight into how they were done.
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not_alone
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Time:2007-12-07 10:10 pm (UTC)
You're very welcome - I'm so glad you're enjoying it:)
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mariole
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Time:2007-12-07 06:02 pm (UTC)
This is mind-boggling! Wow, the detail and the amount of work you put it is awesome! Five gold stars! *applauds wildly*
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not_alone
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Time:2007-12-07 10:15 pm (UTC)
Thank you so much - glad you enjoyed it:) Oooh - five gold stars!! *blushes*
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slipperieslope
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Time:2007-12-07 06:16 pm (UTC)
This is a wonderful treat. Thank you for sharing this with us.
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not_alone
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Time:2007-12-07 10:17 pm (UTC)
You're very welcome - so glad you enjoyed it:)
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addie71
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Time:2007-12-07 07:43 pm (UTC)
This is a wonderful series that you have created. Thank you for sharing it.
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not_alone
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Time:2007-12-07 10:19 pm (UTC)
Thank you very much - so glad you're enjoying it:)
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poplij
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Time:2007-12-07 07:51 pm (UTC)
This is wonderful, thanks for sharing.
There are so many details, it's a joy to read.
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not_alone
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Time:2007-12-07 10:20 pm (UTC)
Many thanks, Pop - so glad you enjoyed it:)
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ex_lbilover
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Time:2007-12-07 08:13 pm (UTC)
Thank you so much for another wonderful chapter in this journey. I hadn't seen most of these photos, so they were an especial treat!
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not_alone
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Time:2007-12-07 10:26 pm (UTC)
Many thanks, I'm so glad you enjoyed this chapter and that I managed to include some pics that were new to you:)
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mole_caz
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Time:2007-12-07 08:29 pm (UTC)
As brilliant as ever. Thanks again for all the hard work you put into these chapters. *hugs*
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not_alone
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Time:2007-12-07 10:27 pm (UTC)
You're very welcome, Mole - so glad you enjoyed it:)
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aliensouldream
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Time:2007-12-07 08:29 pm (UTC)
I have just become aware of this as a project and I think it's fantastic. What a great idea to combine the diverse sources. It gives a more complete overview of what the process must have been like and is a wonderful archive, as well as being enjoyable and beautiful to review well-loved pics and moments. Many thanks for your efforts. I look forward to enjoying past posts and any others in the series. May I friend you?
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not_alone
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Time:2007-12-07 10:38 pm (UTC)
Thank you so much for your kind comments - I do hope you enjoy catching up with the previous chapters:) I do regard this as creating an archive of Elijah's amazing LOTR journey - and, to a lesser extent, my own. I had so much material & info spread around in different forms and I wanted to try to bring it all together in one place. I really enjoy working on it but I do look forward to the time when it is complete and I can just enjoy browsing through it - but I know that is a long way off yet!!

Of course you can friend me - the more the merrier:)
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juliabaggins
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Time:2007-12-07 08:55 pm (UTC)
Wonderful as always ! :)
The scene of the Dead Marshes is so perfect ! Even if its shooting wasn't... lol
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not_alone
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Time:2007-12-07 10:40 pm (UTC)
Many thanks - glad you enjoyed it. Yes, it was a wonderful scene in the film - so atmospheric - but they certainly suffered for their art!!
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notabluemaia
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Time:2007-12-07 08:56 pm (UTC)
Dear NotAlone, these pictures and the text are an absolute joy to see. What an amazing crew, actors, adventure. It's wonderful to glimpse them again - and anew for lots of these are pics or words I hadn't seen.

I'm struck by the good humor and patience so obvious on the set; Elijah seems to greet that cold wet submersion with the same bonhomie that he brings to just about everything. What an incredibly special passage for him - and thank goodness for the way he and Sean and Andy - and the crew - brought these scenes to life. They look 'real' on screen - the 'making of' is almost as intriguing as the movie!

Thank you!!!
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not_alone
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Time:2007-12-07 10:52 pm (UTC)
Thank you so much - I'm really glad you enjoyed it:)

Elijah seems to greet that cold wet submersion with the same bonhomie that he brings to just about everything.

Absolutely!! He's always so ready and eager to do what is asked of him and, whatever discomfort or even danger it entails, he is unfailingly good-natured - never a grumble, nor a whine, nor a frown - ever. He's amazing!!

the 'making of' is almost as intriguing as the movie!

I do agree - I'm sure the enjoyment I get from the behind-the-scenes stuff is equal to that I get from the actual movies:)

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telstar_gold
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Time:2007-12-07 09:17 pm (UTC)
What a delight to have another chapter of this enthralling series to pore over! Yummy, & many thanks!!
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not_alone
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Time:2007-12-07 10:53 pm (UTC)
You're very welcome - so glad you enjoyed it:)
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melyanna_65
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Time:2007-12-07 09:42 pm (UTC)
Each chapter of A Journey with Frodo is a real pleasure. A great read and many good pics to watch (many of them I've never seen before!!).

Frolijah and Seanwise having fun on the set during pauses are priceless!

Thanks a lot, dear!

*hugs*
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not_alone
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Time:2007-12-07 10:58 pm (UTC)
Many thanks Mel - so glad to know you're still enjoying the journey:)

I do love to see the lighter moments they had on set - I think the 'thumbs' game was very cute!!

*hugs*
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frolijah_fan_54
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Time:2007-12-07 09:55 pm (UTC)
Christmas just came early!!

I was so excited to see a new chapter. I can't tell you how many times I've gone back and re-read all these chapters - such a joy to savor!!

Thanks, not_alone for doing this series - I fall in love all over again with each new chapter.
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not_alone
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Time:2007-12-07 11:02 pm (UTC)
Thank you so much for your kind comments, Frolijah - I'm really glad to know you're enjoying the journey:)
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julchen11
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Time:2007-12-07 11:33 pm (UTC)
Those pictures are awesome and you are incredible ... I love traveling behind the scenes...
Thank you, my dear, for this wonderful work.

*hugs tight*
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not_alone
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Time:2007-12-08 09:27 pm (UTC)
Many thanks, Judith - so glad you're still enjoying 'Journey':) *hugs*
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not_alone
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Time:2007-12-08 09:41 pm (UTC)
Many thanks - glad you enjoyed it:) I love the way Andy helps to wrap Elijah up too and I think it's probably typical of the way the cast and crew were on the LOTR set - considerate and helpful to each other.

You're right - Elijah does have lovely slim, shapely legs - I noticed them first in the pics from the Dragon Boat RAce when he was wearing shorts - I'm quite envious!! Hmmm, fishnets ... now there's an image worth conjuring with:D
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annwyn55
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Time:2007-12-08 10:20 am (UTC)
What a great chapter! And what great troupers they all are! You can really see how much they love what they are doing - to be able to smile and laugh in the face of all that hardship. ♥ Thank you, my dear.
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not_alone
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Time:2007-12-08 09:47 pm (UTC)
You're very welcome, Annwyn - glad you enjoyed it:) Yes, they were all great troupers - PJ has often said he purposely chose 'nice people' for this massive project - and he has been proved to be an excellent judge of character:)
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(Anonymous)
Subject:A vast never-ending parking lot
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Time:2007-12-08 12:11 pm (UTC)
I love it when you take advantage of a situation.

This is such a sweet and funny post! Waiting for another train to come, and Andy in his tight white drooled upon suit.

'Wrap him up well and send him to me.' NO!!
Wait a minute. It's Christmas time, people are supposed to be generous, loving, and so forth. O.K. He's yours. But just this once.

Anne

And: Bless the local farmers for warning them!
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not_alone
Subject:Re: A vast never-ending parking lot
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Time:2007-12-08 09:53 pm (UTC)
Many thanks Anne - glad you enjoyed this chapter:)

O.K. He's yours. But just this once.

Oooh, thank you - I promise to take very good care of him:D

Bless the local farmers for warning them

Yes - that's quite scary - those poor animals!! I remember a bit on one of the dvd extras when PJ tried stepping into one of the marshes and started to sink quite rapidly!!
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budgielover
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Time:2007-12-09 03:36 am (UTC)
What a gift you have/are giving us. Mere words cannot express the joy I feel in looking at these photos. Maybe we weren't there to create the magic, but you are keeping it alive in our hearts.
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not_alone
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Time:2007-12-09 09:36 pm (UTC)
Thank you so much for your kind words - it makes me really happy to know you're enjoying 'Journey' so much:)
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