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Subject:Shame On You, TORN:(
Time:10:01 pm
Current Mood:disappointeddisappointed
Happy Froday!! How quickly it comes around:)

Is anyone as sad as I am that TORN forgot Elijah's birthday? I know it's not the crime of the century and I'm probably overreacting but - they forgot his birthday!! Elijah - he who was Frodo, the Ringbearer - the star of the Trilogy! They posted something the next day, but only after they had been reminded by ladysnaps - otherwise it would probably have been ignored. I might be wrong but I can't remember them ever forgetting anyone's birthday before - ever since filming began they have posted birthday greetings to all the actors every year. I quickly checked back over the last six months to see if there were any other 'belated' greetings - none! And something else I noticed - whereas there were several news items for various cast members - some LOTR-related, some not - in that six months there was nothing on Elijah apart from his comments about 'The Hobbit'. When Elijah took part in 'Adrenaline Junkie' - our Elijah, our Frodo, breaking records and battling the rapids - I really thought it warranted a mention so I wrote to them. No mention, no reply - nothing. Sadly, it really does seem that Elijah, who has often said he's like Frodo in many ways, has also shared Frodo's fate:

"Frodo dropped quietly out of all the doings of the Shire and Sam was pained to notice how little honour he had in his own country. Few people knew or wanted to know about his deeds and adventures; their admiration was given mostly to Mr Meriadoc and Mr Peregrine and (if Sam had known it) to himself."



It kept niggling at me, I couldn't let it go so I knew I had to write to them and put my disappointment on record. No reply, of course - I didn't expect one, and I'm fully aware that it will by now have been filed under 'Correspondence From Silly Old Bats' - but at least I got it off my chest.

I'm sure Elijah had a wonderful birthday, most of us will have seen the pics of him out enjoying himself with friends that day - I just hope that at no time during the day did he think, 'I'll just pop into Torn to read my birthday greeting' because, after all these years, he'd have found - nothing - and I find that incredibly sad:(

Have a great weekend everyone! Here in the UK we are supposed to be getting even more snow over the weekend - we've had the heaviest snowfall for 18 years!! Beautiful to look at but not nice for those battling to work.
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not_alone
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Time:2009-02-07 11:17 pm (UTC)
"hope he reads some of the blog sites where he's loved and honored for what he's done and who he is."

Ohhh, so do I Mews - so do I:)
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primula_baggins
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Time:2009-02-06 11:01 pm (UTC)
I don't know what's going on with TORN these days, but they don't seem to be on top of things as they used to be. You'd think that they would have automatic alerts about the birthdays. My guess is that they only go to update the TORN site every few days now, and they just didn't update on Elijah's birthday, so they didn't notice. I think they'd probably notice later, though. I hope.

I've sent them notes before, too, and I was ignored. I think you have to be someone they know or else they ignore it.

But *sniff* poor Frodo!

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not_alone
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Time:2009-02-07 11:20 pm (UTC)
"I've sent them notes before, too, and I was ignored. I think you have to be someone they know or else they ignore it"

Yes, I think that's true. They have posted a couple of news items I've sent in the past, but they've never replied to any of my emails.
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bellewood
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Time:2009-02-07 12:34 am (UTC)
"previously unseen outtakes."

Have i seen them?? Can i see them?
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trianne
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Time:2009-02-06 11:18 pm (UTC)
Oh, that is sad. *hugs*
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not_alone
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Time:2009-02-08 06:19 pm (UTC)
It is very sad, isn't it. It'll be interesting to see what happens next year - not that I expect them to take any notice of the 50 reminders I intend to send them:D *hugs*
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shirebound
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Time:2009-02-06 11:33 pm (UTC)
That makes me sad too, and I'm really glad you wrote to them. I don't visit TORN, and depend on all of you to keep me up to date.

*hugs you a lot*
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not_alone
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Time:2009-02-08 06:23 pm (UTC)
Yes - it is sad:( I do appreciate all the info they've given us over the years but it does seem they've got a bit above themselves. And to forget 'Frodo's' birthday:o *shakes head in disbelief*
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rakshi
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Time:2009-02-06 11:35 pm (UTC)
I've been in the minority for years.. but TORN has NEVER been one of my favorite places.

In the old days, they'd post every move Orlando made. Hell, it got a mention if he crossed the street. But Sean was nominated by many, MANY move critics associations for ROTK and they never said a word.

I've never had any use for them since then. *shrugs* So.. this does not surprise me.

Love... and WE remembered him!!
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serai1
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Time:2009-02-07 04:16 am (UTC)
They can be really nasty, too. Back when Ringers premiered at the Long Beach Film Festival, they posted that tickets were going for $15. I got online, fighting patiently through the crowd for over two hours, only to find out the tickets were $75. After being fairly pissed, I sent TORn an email suggesting that when they post something like that, it might be a good idea to check and make sure the info is accurate. This is what I got back:

the film festival sets the prices. go complain to them.

That's verbatim. How fucking rude is that, for a website that's supposed to be "about the fans"? I never communicated with them again. Wankers.
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lijahlover
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Time:2009-02-07 12:15 am (UTC)
That is disappointing news hun *hugs*
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not_alone
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Time:2009-02-08 06:50 pm (UTC)
Yes, it is very disappointing, isn't it. *hugs*
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bellewood
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Time:2009-02-07 12:32 am (UTC)
I have to be honest and say that i don't visit TORN, probably because i wasn't around in the early days.. but i so agree that it's sad the ringbearer should be forgotten. It seems to me that whoever writes the updates isn't an Elijah fan.. ( maybe an Orli fan though..) and although i know he hasn't really done anything film-wise for them to write about, it's inexcusable to forget him. Updates on the film and it's characters.. isn't that what the site is all about?
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not_alone
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Time:2009-02-08 08:26 pm (UTC)
Torn was one of the first places I visited after that fateful first viewing of FOTR. They were the main providers of info before and during filming and it's by trawling through their archives that I've been able to obtain most of my info on what happened before I was Elijah/LOTR-aware. So it became a way of life for me to drop in there daily - or several times a day at first - though now I get LJ notifications whenever they post. Oddly enough I never got round to joining the forums until years later which is something I regret. During filming they started the practice of posting birthday greetings to all the cast members and this was repeated every year thereafter. I'm sure that they must have forgotten some birthdays during all those years and that would be quite excusable for any other cast member - but not THE STAR!! That is as bad as forgetting PJ or JRRT! And I was really put out that they didn't mention Elijah's appearance on AJ. Whereas if Orli or Ian McKellan have something different for breakfast .... Ah well, I suppose I'm being over-sensitive - I tend to get that way where Elijah is concerned;)

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ladysnaps
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Time:2009-02-07 01:24 am (UTC)
TORn was the first site i came across while scouting out news about elijah on the net. i lived there until i came across A&F through them. imagine! a whole site about elijah. i was in heaven! but i still visited TORn. not so much now, but i was truly expecting a birthday greeting. i had hoped in the past some belated birthday greetings were posted, but you did the legwork and found there never has been one. never until elijah and that is disappointing. i just wonder if i hadn't written would that day still go unnoticed and how many others wrote them pointing out the same thing?

i'm sorry you and some others have never gotten a reply from them, but in the past when i have written them about news, they posted it. why me? i have no idea, but all news sent in should be reported on. after all, the people involved with LOTR made the site possible.

i'm glad however that you did write them to let them know of their "oversight" and your disappointment with them. i just hope that if elijah happened to surf the net on his birthday, he came across A&F. i think we were the only elijah site to do something special for his birthday, and as long as i'm a part of it, there always will be. :)
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not_alone
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Time:2009-02-08 08:35 pm (UTC)
TORn was the first site i came across while scouting out news about elijah on the net.

Same here - and as I mentioned to Belle, I'd sometimes drop in there several times a day at first!

i had hoped in the past some belated birthday greetings were posted, but you did the legwork and found there never has been one.

Well, I only looked over the past six months and there were none but I don't recall ever seeing one before. When I have more time I intend to check that out. I do have a feeling that it was only because of your email they posted something the next day.

They have posted a couple of news items I've sent them in the past but they've never replied to any emails.

Yes, I hope Elijah found A&F too and it'd be nice to think he might have seen a few of the LJ greetings that popped up in alerts. It'll be interesting to see what happens next year - after we've bombarded them with reminders:D
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_celebrian
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Time:2009-02-07 03:36 am (UTC)
I visit TORn regularly and, like Prim said, I don't think they've been updating every day at this point. I guess they must be busy or away or something. And, I'm sure I've noticed other belated or missed birthday greetings. I don't remember exactly who or how long ago, but I am 99.9% sure that it's happened.

It's a shame that they were late with birthday greetings, but there's no way I could keep up with all the stuff they must get, so I find it hard to be too angry with them.
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not_alone
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Time:2009-02-08 08:50 pm (UTC)
And, I'm sure I've noticed other belated or missed birthday greetings

Oh, I'm sure it must have happened at some time over all those years - and for most of the actors it would be perfectly excusable - I'm sure we've all been guilty of missing a birthday or two amongst our own friends! But - not Elijah, the star of the trilogy - not Frodo, the heart of the story - that's as bad as forgetting PJ or JRRT!! And coupled with ignoring him in other ways - it did make me feel there can't be many Elijah fans amongst the Torn staff anymore - which is just so sad:(
Having said all that - I will be eternally grateful to them for all the info they have provided during and after filming - many of the quotes I've used for 'Journey' originated from them - so, I'll try not to be too angry this time - but let's see what happens next year!! :)
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serai1
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Time:2009-02-07 04:12 am (UTC)
Not surprising, frankly. They make a big schtuss about being a website "for the fans", but when it comes to dealing with any kind of questioning or criticism, no matter how polite and well-meant, they can be pretty damn nasty. It's why I stopped communicating with them, or posting on their boards. Talk about a letdown!
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not_alone
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Time:2009-02-08 08:55 pm (UTC)
but when it comes to dealing with any kind of questioning or criticism, no matter how polite and well-meant, they can be pretty damn nasty

It's true, I get the impression they feel they're lowering themselves by replying to emails from lowly fans, which is all they are themselves, after all!
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harukameko
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Time:2009-02-07 04:13 am (UTC)
Wow. While I rarely visit TORN these days, I am really surprised they would completely leave out Lij's birthday.
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not_alone
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Time:2009-02-08 09:00 pm (UTC)
I know - it's unbelievable - but sadly, true:(
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mother2012
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Time:2009-02-07 04:23 am (UTC)
Ah, but Elijah *is* Frodo.
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not_alone
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Time:2009-02-08 09:04 pm (UTC)
It's true - he is Frodo. Hang on - could that be the answer to it all? They were thinking his birthday is 22 September!!
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verangel
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Time:2009-02-07 05:05 am (UTC)
OH common...all that snow may be a pain in the ass a bit, but after 18 years...its magic. At least I hope it is (and I love summer more now). Its funny, I can imagine Torn was thinking, lets not make a big show of birthdays and move on...but then, that is what made them and it would have been nice just yelling out a nice birthday hello. I don't know if they do it for other actors from LOTRs. If the don't, then its forgivable.
So sleepy. love you xoxoox v
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not_alone
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Time:2009-02-08 09:16 pm (UTC)
Well, I'm happy because I no longer go to work (I retired for health reasons a year ago) - so I can just gaze out at the beauty -and it is very beautiful. But on the first day of snow my poor hubby fell down twice while he was out working! However, now it's been going on for a while he's beginning to get the hang of it:D

I don't know if they do it for other actors from LOTRs. If the don't, then its forgivable.

They've done it every year, for all the main actors, since filming began. I checked over the past 6 months and they hadn't forgotten anyone. But if they are going to start forgetting people, perhaps they should start with someone who had a lesser role - not THE STAR!! grrrr

Ok - finished:) Love youxx


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hobbitlove83
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Time:2009-02-07 10:31 am (UTC)
Awww, that must the the most poignant quote from the book- every time I read it it makes me feel so sad...

Btw, when Torn finally posted they went about explaining who Elijah is and what he's done. I mean, hello?? We're the fans, we know!!
Stupid sods!
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not_alone
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Time:2009-02-08 09:23 pm (UTC)
That quote is just heartbreaking, isn't it? I'm rereading ROTK - I almost dread reaching the end!

I mean, hello?? We're the fans, we know!!
Stupid sods!


Heehee! You're right there:)
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