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Subject:Empire Mag
Time:09:24 pm


Happy Froday!

The latest issue of 'Empire' has an article about the release of the LOTR Trilogy on Blu-ray. They asked various celebrities and people who work at 'Empire' to name their favourite moment from the Trilogy. For those who are rather concerned about what Guillermo del Toro has planned for 'The Hobbit', his answer could be either encouraging ... or worrying

This is what GdT said: "My favourite moment was in Fellowship, when our beloved Hobbits get off the road and are hiding precariously from the Dark Rider. The ominous tone, the POV of the road, distorted by an alien force, the shocking details: nail-transfixed hooves, the mount's reddish, cadaverous eyes, bugs crawling out of the Nazgul's body, the sniffing noises as the evil creature looms above our heroes. A perfect scene. Absolute immersion."

When I first started reading that I thought it was great that he'd chosen a scene involving the hobbits, I loved that he referred to them as 'our beloved Hobbits' but as I read on it appeared that he'd completely misinterpreted part of that scene. Either that, or I've misunderstood it all these years. He talks of 'the bugs crawling out of the Nazgul's body'. I always believed the 'bugs scene' was an indication of the effect the Nazgul had on all the living things around - not that they came from the Nazgul. Am I right?

A few others who named scenes involving Frodo:

Michael Fassbender: "It's got to be the scene where the Black Riders attack the camp. Frodo slips on the Ring and sees them as they really are: chilling and tragic. And there's some great shrieking when one of them goes up in flames."

Edgar Wright: "But when it reached the scene where the Hobbits leave the Shire and hide from the Nazgul under the path, I was truly blown away. It was so beautifully done and so damn scary. That scene alone brought my childhood memories racing into vivid life."


Liz Beardsworth (Assistant Editor): "Frodo's eerie walk through the Dead Marshes, as the silent 'corpses' eye his passage. I found it stunningly beautiful even while it scared the bejesus out of me."

Chris Hewitt (News Editor): "It's when Ian Holm's cordial Bilbo spies the Ring hanging around Frodo's neck and, for just an instant, becomes a lizard-eyed, snarling ghoul. A brilliantly executed jump-scare that comes out of nowhere."

Kim Newman (Contributing Editor): "Giant spider!"
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shirebound
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Time:2010-03-26 09:32 pm (UTC)
I always believed the 'bugs scene' was an indication of the effect the Nazgul had on all the living things around - not that they came from the Nazgul.

I'm with you! He'd better not show us any bugs coming from bodies in "The Hobbit". *shivers* How interesting that they all picked 'scary' moments.

Oooh, thanks for sharing these! I want people to be thinking about -- and admiring -- LOTR all day, every day. :)

Edited at 2010-03-26 10:19 pm (UTC)
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not_alone
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Time:2010-03-27 10:47 pm (UTC)
>>I want people to be thinking about -- and admiring -- LOTR all day, every day. :)<<

Wouldn't that be wonderful?!

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not_alone
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Time:2010-03-27 10:50 pm (UTC)
>>I really disliked Pan's Labyrinth<<

I've never seen it but I've read comments from others who say more or less the same thing. Doesn't bode well:(
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mechtild
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Time:2010-03-26 10:50 pm (UTC)
I think it is explicitly said in the DVD extras or commentary track that the insects are crawling out because the presence of the Nazgul has disturbed nature, as if nature had a "normal" energy field going on all the time and the Dark Lord's servant gave it a jolt, unnerving not just hobbits but insects.

I think it's interesting that people were asked to name their favourite moment from the trilogy, and all the speakers you cited named something from FOTR. While if I had to name my favourite *film* of the trilogy it would be FOTR, if asked what are my favourite *moments*, most of them come from ROTK. :)

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not_alone
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Time:2010-03-27 10:56 pm (UTC)
>>I think it's interesting that people were asked to name their favourite moment from the trilogy, and all the speakers you cited named something from FOTR. While if I had to name my favourite *film* of the trilogy it would be FOTR, if asked what are my favourite *moments*, most of them come from ROTK<<

It's exactly the same for me - FOTR is my favourite of the trilogy but there are so many intensely emotional scenes in ROTK - if I had to pick just one (which as yet I've never been able to do) it would most probably come from ROTK:)
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mechtild
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Time:2010-03-28 01:00 am (UTC)
We have a kinship in that way, then. :)

P.S. Blossom was able to comment in the recent Mechtild entry. I was so pleased to hear from her. She says she's still go computer ills, but that she had got a spare "ancient" PC to work for the moment. I hope her computer woes are over soon.
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not_alone
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Time:2010-03-28 08:32 pm (UTC)
I'm so glad you've heard from Blossom - but sorry to hear her computer problems are still ongoing:(
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bellewood
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Time:2010-03-27 12:49 am (UTC)
The bugs are trying to get away from the Nazgul, not escaping from their body.. definitely. I've never seen any of his films but it does sound like GdT is a big fan of horror and suspense. I know everyone is nervous about his handling of the film, but even though Peter has given him free rein, i don't think he'll allow him to stray too far from the path, i really don't..
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not_alone
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Time:2010-03-27 10:59 pm (UTC)
As far as I know, I've never seen any of GdT's films either but I've read some very negative comments about 'Pan's Labrinyth'. But I'm sure you're right - PJ wouldn't allow him to do anything too awful to the film:)
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primula_baggins
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Time:2010-03-27 01:11 am (UTC)
"I always believed the 'bugs scene' was an indication of the effect the Nazgul had on all the living things around - not that they came from the Nazgul. Am I right?"

That's what I thought it was too. I must say, GDT loves creepiness, scary things, and monsters. If I could talk to him and he'd listen, I'd tell him to focus on the story and not on how many outrageous scenes and monsters he can create. I wish PJ were directing it and not GDT.

But you know what? Since none of our hobbits (except a new Bilbo) will be in The Hobbit, I don't really care what they do to it. I'm not all that interested in these movies. The only reason I was excited at first was because I thought they were going to create a bridge film. But that isn't going to happen.
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not_alone
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Time:2010-03-27 11:03 pm (UTC)
>>But you know what? Since none of our hobbits (except a new Bilbo) will be in The Hobbit, I don't really care what they do to it. I'm not all that interested in these movies. The only reason I was excited at first was because I thought they were going to create a bridge film. But that isn't going to happen.<<

Ditto!! Since they scrapped the idea of the bridge film my interest plummeted to almost zero. But, I know it's ridiculous, yet even now I cling to some vague hope that Frodo and the other hobbits will be involved!
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msilverstar
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Time:2010-03-27 04:08 am (UTC)
That was the scene that scared the pants off my ten-year-old, and I had to take him home :-(
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not_alone
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Time:2010-03-27 11:05 pm (UTC)
Oh dear ... bless him:)
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Subject:The evil creature looms above our heroes
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Time:2010-03-27 09:53 am (UTC)
Argh.

'Bugs crawling out of the Nazgul's body' - of course not.
Maybe the guy is interested in technical details of filmmaking rather than performances, subtext, the heart of the book interpreted in the films?

It is interesting - like Shirebound commented - that all those people chose creepy, scary moments.

My favourite moments: Bilbo and Frodo in the Party Tent, Bilbo's confession and the look on Frodo's face; Frodo lying on the rock, the ring is destroyed, he can see and feel the Shire again, the look of complete bliss on his face; the beacons being lit, leading parts: the New Zealand landscape and Howard Shore's music.

Thank you yet again, NotAlone, for your Froday post!

Anne
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shirebound
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Time:2010-03-27 12:36 pm (UTC)
Ooooh, the beacons! That was truly a wondrous scene.
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not_alone
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Time:2010-03-27 11:10 pm (UTC)
You're welcome, Anne. Love all the scenes you mentioned. If anyone asked me to name just one scene I really think I'd find it impossible. But I could be sure of one thing - it would involve Frodo!! :)
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janejanejane
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Time:2010-03-27 04:03 pm (UTC)
The bugs crawled out of the earth around the Hobbits, not out of the Nazgul's body!

I agree, I think it was to show the effect of this evil creature on the environment surrounding him.

Don't think I could choose a favourite moment, there are too many and they all involve Frodo ;-)

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not_alone
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Time:2010-03-27 11:13 pm (UTC)
>>Don't think I could choose a favourite moment, there are too many and they all involve Frodo ;-)<<

Lol - just before I read your comment, I'd replied to Anne above and said almost exactly the same thing:)

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janejanejane
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Time:2010-03-28 11:50 am (UTC)
Great minds think alike! ;0)
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frodosweetstuff
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Time:2010-03-29 09:45 am (UTC)
Oh yes, he did misunderstand - and that doesn't really bode well for the Hobbit, does it? Luckily, I don't care much for the Hobbit - I totally hated the book as a child and since there's not going to be any Frodo or Sam content, it's more or less all the same to me what they do.

I love the shortness of the last comment by Kim Newman. I think mine would have been: Frodo! :D
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not_alone
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Time:2010-03-29 03:52 pm (UTC)
>>I don't care much for the Hobbit - I totally hated the book as a child and since there's not going to be any Frodo or Sam content, it's more or less all the same to me what they do. <<

I only read 'The Hobbit' quite recently! I didn't care for it all that much either - it certainly didn't have the LOTR magic, but I expect that's because there was no Frodo & Sam! When they talked about the possibility of a bridging film which could involve Frodo and the other hobbits, I was really excited, but then that came to nothing and my interest went down to zero. But, very stupidly, I still cling to a vague hope that perhaps Elijah & Co may be involved in some way:) *sigh*
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frodosweetstuff
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Time:2010-03-30 08:24 am (UTC)
Oh yes, the bridging film would have been different! And yes, I keep hoping that, too!!!! It would be wonderful to have at least a tiny cameo somewhere...
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