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Subject:Elijah and Sean
Time:10:03 pm
Happy Froday!

I was very interested in something Elijah posted on twitter today. Obviously, I'm interested in everything he posts but this one set me thinking. It was sent to Mackenzie Astin, Sean Astin's brother:

"Elijah Wood‏@woodelijah
@MackenzieAstin just watched your gentle takeover of your brother's show. reminded me of how gifted, eloquent, thoughtful, charismatic you are. bravo, mac. you should think about doing something like that more often. it suits you beautifully."

I know several people share my concern at what seems to have been a waning of the friendship between Elijah and Sean. For many this concern is mostly linked to fanfiction because Elijah & Sean have always been their One True Pair. I've never really been involved in fanfics myself, apart from sometimes reading, but I've always cherished the idea of the LOTR actors, especially the 'hobbits', continuing the friendships forged during filming. It has been wonderful to see what great friends Elijah and Dom still are, and Billy of course, when he's around. But Sean never seems to be with them. I was even beginning to wonder if he and Elijah had had a falling-out for some reason. But this tweet, although directed to Sean's brother, seems to suggest otherwise. Mac had hosted an episode of Sean's political chat show Vox Populi and it consisted almost entirely of a loving tribute to his brother. Elijah had obviously listened to this and enjoyed it. I was surprised that he was even aware of the show. The fact is, we don't really know what goes on behind the public posts of Twitter and Facebook. There are Direct Messages, private emails, locked Facebooks. So although we get to know quite a lot, we don't know everything. It's quite possible, probable even, that they email each other and keep up with each other's lives, even if they don't actually meet that often. I really hope so. Incidentally, reading that tweet makes my heart melt, I love his way with words.
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aliensouldream
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Time:2012-08-24 09:47 pm (UTC)
THIS!

That's a lovely tweet and certainly suggests a footing of warm friendliness or even intimacy with the family. Elijah seems generally reticent to presume on slight friendships and I don't think he'd be that forward if he wasn't already comfortable with the person. You're so right, we only see a little bit of the bigger picture. At any rate, there's plenty of reasons to still hope, this being one of them. Thanks!!
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not_alone
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Time:2012-08-25 06:41 pm (UTC)
You're welcome. It's certainly very encouraging:)
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not_alone
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Time:2012-08-25 06:41 pm (UTC)
Yes, I thought the same:)
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primula_baggins
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Time:2012-08-24 10:43 pm (UTC)
"The fact is, we don't really know what goes on behind the public posts of Twitter and Facebook. There are Direct Messages, private emails, locked Facebooks. So although we get to know quite a lot, we don't know everything. It's quite possible, probable even, that they email each other and keep up with each other's lives, even if they don't actually meet that often."

And that's exactly what I think is going on. When they did the 10 year hobbit reunion photo session for a magazine early this year, (or was it last year?), they all seemed to still be friends. Dom and Elijah live close together, and when Billy comes to Los Angeles, he is close by, too. Sean lives way out in the north valley, and with his wife and family, he's got his own life out there. I remember that Dom and Sean tweeted at each other at one time. Dom tweets at just about everyone! Elijah is a little more reserved. I don't think I've ever seen Elijah tweet at Billy either. But yeah, to say that Elijah and Sean aren't friends anymore--I don't believe that.
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yeuxdebleu
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Time:2012-08-25 12:42 am (UTC)
I agree 100% with all you said and you've saved me from saying the same thing. Sean has a life that's quite different from the other three and as you said, he's further away and very involved with family life. Also, I don't think he's interested in music at the level of the other three...certainly not as into it as Elijah. But I don't doubt for a second that he and Elijah are still very good friends. You can have a friend you don't see regularly, but still consider them a very good friend.
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telstar_gold
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Time:2012-08-24 10:48 pm (UTC)
Nawww, that's so heartwarming. He could almost be tweeting his own brother. :))) There's definitely some caring here.
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not_alone
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Time:2012-08-25 06:49 pm (UTC)
Yes, I believe there is:)
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ink_gypsy
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Time:2012-08-24 10:52 pm (UTC)
I really hope it's true that Sean and Elijah are still friends and still in touch. I'd hate to believe that the affection we saw between them during the heyday of LOTR could just disappear.
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not_alone
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Time:2012-08-25 06:51 pm (UTC)
I'd hate to think that too but I do feel optimistic that they still have affection for each other:)
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ambree40
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Time:2012-08-24 10:57 pm (UTC)
I saw these tweets too and thought that Elijah must still be on good, perhaps intimate terms with the Astins. You probably wouldn’t post such public praise unless you knew the other person really well.

Just before I saw these tweets, I had read Rakshi's rather nostalgic post about the fading of the close Sean/Elijah relationship. And I also glanced through the comments she got on that post. One of the things that surprised me was that I sensed a feeling of disappointment about the post-Ring career of the hobbits. “They all expected to be in big blockbusters”.

From everything I’ve read over the past year (since I first “discovered” Elijah), I got the impression that Elijah doesn't feel like that at all. He doesn't have the ambition to act in big blockbusters and he has said so many times. He wants to do new things that interest him. His whole post-Rings body of work is a testimony to it. I perceive him as an adventurous spirit who likes to challenge himself with new projects. For instance: trying comedy (Wilfred), choosing a role because of an interesting story telling device (POV approach of Maniac), because he is attracted to the script (EII, OM, Grand Piano).
I, for one, admire and respect his for this attitude.
So sorry about this rant, Paulie. Had to get that off my chest.
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not_alone
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Time:2012-08-25 07:00 pm (UTC)
You're absolutely right. In interviews immediately following LOTR, Elijah said many times that the last thing he wanted was to work on another blockbuster, that he preferred small, independent films with little-known directors. And of course, he's always saying how he likes to challenge himself with new things. So, that statement certainly isn't relevant where Elijah is concerned. And, like you, I respect him for that:)
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antane
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Time:2012-08-25 12:32 am (UTC)
I've thought about this myself. They had such an intensely close and wonderful friendship/brotherhood and that seemed to have disappeared but it would be great if it hasn't. I love his words to Mac also - very thoughtful and loving.

Namarie, God bless, Antane :)
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not_alone
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Time:2012-08-25 07:04 pm (UTC)
Yes, it's because they were so close that this concerns me, but I do feel quite hopeful following that tweet:)
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addie71
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Time:2012-08-25 02:20 am (UTC)
I felt the same way when I saw that posted earlier today. It made me warm and melty all over.
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not_alone
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Time:2012-08-25 07:05 pm (UTC)
Yes, it's given me some hope that their affection for each other continues:)
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newleaf31
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Time:2012-08-25 04:08 am (UTC)
I've just finished watching the podcast that Mack hosted. I'm just two years younger than Mackenzie Astin, and I remember having a passing crush on him way back when he was on the U.S. TV show The Facts of Life when he was, oh, I dunno, maybe nine or ten. I didn't keep up with him through the years (aside from realizing that he's Sean's little brother), so I had no idea he had struggled with addiction. I'm so glad he had Sean there to help him when he was ready to ask. He seems -- just going by this hour-long podcast and Elijah's words -- to be a lovely man.

I too was deeply moved by Elijah's tweet(s) to Mack, and found myself instantly thinking that the adjectives he employs apply equally aptly to Elijah himself. And as I was watching and listening to the podcast, I found Mackenzie reminded me powerfully of Elijah. Indeed, he reminds me far, far more of Elijah than he does of Sean. So it doesn't surprise me in the slightest that Elijah and Sean struck up such a close friendship during the LotR years; I can only imagine Sean responded instinctively to the qualities in Elijah that are so much like his brother.

I've not spent much time thinking about the friendship between Elijah and Sean, truthfully. I don't read fanfiction at all, so I've always perceived Elijah's friendships with Dom and Billy as being fundamentally different, and probably closer, than the one with Sean. I guess I've always just thought of that friendship in the same terms that I think of some of my own. At least for me, friendships always wax and wane and change. Even my very best friends and I have fluid relationships, in which we don't always stay in close touch and our lives drift apart. But we remain in each other's orbit even when we're at apogee (to get all cosmic!), and sometimes we randomly check in on each other. When we come back together for some reason, usually any distance that's been between us is erased and we find it easy to reknit those bonds. Additionally, as a person who isn't married, I find it incredibly challenging to maintain close relationships with friends who are married and have children. It doesn't mean we don't care about each other; it's just that our lives don't really mesh at all. At the risk of over-identifying or making them in my own image, I kind of figure some or all of those different dynamics are in play between Elijah and Sean.
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not_alone
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Time:2012-08-25 07:13 pm (UTC)
>>and found myself instantly thinking that the adjectives he employs apply equally aptly to Elijah himself.<<

Ditto!! My exact thought was, "Sweetheart, you're describing yourself!!"

I don't know if you've read Sean's book, you probably have, but it does seem that Elijah's sweet nature helped them to stay such friends throughout the filming. By Sean's own admission, he could sometimes be hard work.

>>I kind of figure some or all of those different dynamics are in play between Elijah and Sean.<<

I believe you're quite right on that point.
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msilverstar
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Time:2012-08-25 05:39 am (UTC)
how lovely!!!
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not_alone
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Time:2012-08-25 07:14 pm (UTC)
Yes, so lovely:)
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mumis
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Time:2012-08-25 06:32 am (UTC)
Thanks I do read that tweet too and the is nice!:)

I agree with you!

*hugs*
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not_alone
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Time:2012-08-25 07:15 pm (UTC)
Many thanks Mumis - glad you agree:)

*hugs*
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spring200
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Time:2012-08-25 07:20 am (UTC)
Hi Love
I don't have a twitter account so thanks for posting this, I am pleased to think that he is still friends with Sean and his lovely family:)
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not_alone
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Time:2012-08-25 07:16 pm (UTC)
Yes, I'm very hopeful that they're still the good friends they've always been:)
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janejanejane
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Time:2012-08-25 07:21 pm (UTC)
Interesting, thanks my friend! :-)
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not_alone
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Time:2012-08-25 07:36 pm (UTC)
You're welcome, Jane:)
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karin_woywod
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Time:2012-08-25 09:25 pm (UTC)

I think, between Elijah and Sean, it's more a case of friends from afar. Sean and Elijah are not quite in the same age group, and Sean has a very different private life, because he is a family man.

There are some friends of mine I don't see for years, but if we meet again, it's like the first day.

I think, Sean and Elijah never did fall out with each other. During the LOTR filming days, they were quite close to each other, but now, they don't see each other often, and they don't work in the same areas of acting (their careers and their choices of films / tv projects are quite different).

Most fans want them to be close, because of Frodo and Sam. I don't like that automatic transfer from literary figures to real life people. The filming of LOTR happened 9 to 13 years ago, and Elijah and Sean don't live in each other's neighbourhood. I think they know what they had, back in New Zealand, and they will always be friends because of that. But not in the sense that they see each other very often now and do things together.

Love,

- Karin.

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not_alone
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Time:2012-08-26 09:12 pm (UTC)
>>I think they know what they had, back in New Zealand, and they will always be friends because of that<<

In my heart of hearts, that is what I believe too.
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lilithlotr
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Time:2012-08-26 04:11 am (UTC)
Hello, from a near stranger.

Yes, what Karin said. Really, when you think about it, in a way it was more surprising that Sean WAS as close as he was to the group, at the time. He was coming from a different place, really.

It's nice that the LOTR bonds have held up as well as they have. I like the direction Sean is taking - it doesn't surprise me at all, since he's always been political. I know Elijah has always been supportive but it made me smile to realize that he was listening.
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not_alone
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Time:2012-08-26 09:21 pm (UTC)

Hi Lilith!

>>but it made me smile to realize that he was listening.<<

Me too! It's nice to know there is still some connection even if they don't get to see each other very often these days:)

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